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		<title>By: Christmas Conversion &#124; Balance Junkie</title>
		<link>http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/14/religion-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-17110</link>
		<dc:creator>Christmas Conversion &#124; Balance Junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 16:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] usually garnering lots of comments. Recently, a  post on the Get Rich Slowly blog and one from Redeeming Riches  managed to broach the religion-money relationship subject without too much vitriol. That probably [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] usually garnering lots of comments. Recently, a  post on the Get Rich Slowly blog and one from Redeeming Riches  managed to broach the religion-money relationship subject without too much vitriol. That probably [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert@BungeeBones.com</title>
		<link>http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/14/religion-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-878</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert@BungeeBones.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In order to have &quot;money decisions&quot; to make one must first understand what money is. As I realize how far down the path of deception and fraud we have gone as a nation, as a hemisphere, and yes, even as a &quot;church&quot; I get more and more convinced all the &quot;world&quot; has in store is another Dark Ages as the entire world&#039;s money system collapses.

We have an entirely fiat money system throughout the western world. It is an embrace, in a major way, of a system that has never worked before. We did not design and plan the implementation of this system, rather it was thrust upon us by the default of the US to continue backing the Federal Reserve Note with real dollars.

We have a system where &quot;money&quot; is supposedly created out of thin air. That single issue is at the core of faith and wealth. If such a system is true (looking at &quot;church&quot; coffers one would assume they believe such is the case) then what thanks is necessary for a Creator? After all, what credit can the Creator get if the printing press is the source of financial blessing? Fiat money is the epitome of man&#039;s pride in my estimation and we will soon see the fall from that pinacle.

What will people do when they don&#039;t have any money system at all? There will be nothing to buy anything with. Like I say, another dark ages is around the corner. How will people act then? That is when their faith will either sustain them or not. It will be a tremendous thing to face such calamity and I certainly wouldn&#039;t want to face it without the promises He has given that we will not be forsaken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order to have &#8220;money decisions&#8221; to make one must first understand what money is. As I realize how far down the path of deception and fraud we have gone as a nation, as a hemisphere, and yes, even as a &#8220;church&#8221; I get more and more convinced all the &#8220;world&#8221; has in store is another Dark Ages as the entire world&#8217;s money system collapses.</p>
<p>We have an entirely fiat money system throughout the western world. It is an embrace, in a major way, of a system that has never worked before. We did not design and plan the implementation of this system, rather it was thrust upon us by the default of the US to continue backing the Federal Reserve Note with real dollars.</p>
<p>We have a system where &#8220;money&#8221; is supposedly created out of thin air. That single issue is at the core of faith and wealth. If such a system is true (looking at &#8220;church&#8221; coffers one would assume they believe such is the case) then what thanks is necessary for a Creator? After all, what credit can the Creator get if the printing press is the source of financial blessing? Fiat money is the epitome of man&#8217;s pride in my estimation and we will soon see the fall from that pinacle.</p>
<p>What will people do when they don&#8217;t have any money system at all? There will be nothing to buy anything with. Like I say, another dark ages is around the corner. How will people act then? That is when their faith will either sustain them or not. It will be a tremendous thing to face such calamity and I certainly wouldn&#8217;t want to face it without the promises He has given that we will not be forsaken.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/14/religion-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-824</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, you&#039;re right, having kids does have a way of getting us on our knees more to pray!
.-= Jason´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/RedeemingRiches/~3/nnyEVHFEZ44/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Procrastinators Guide to Last Minute Gift Ideas&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, you&#8217;re right, having kids does have a way of getting us on our knees more to pray!<br />
.-= Jason´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/RedeemingRiches/~3/nnyEVHFEZ44/" rel="nofollow">The Procrastinators Guide to Last Minute Gift Ideas</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut</title>
		<link>http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/14/religion-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-805</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin@OutOfYourRut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wojciech - Your comment and the fact that you have a baby on the way reminded me of me at about the time my son was born.  I was having a conversation with a work friend, who was also a Catholic Sunday school teacher, in which I was expressing concern about something important related to being a parent.  

In response to my comments, he asked me &quot;do you pray?&quot;  I wasn&#039;t a praying person at the time and answered truthfully, &quot;no&quot;.  

&quot;You will,&quot; he answered, &quot;you&#039;re a father now&quot;.  

That was over 15 years ago.  He was right.
.-= Kevin@OutOfYourRut´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://outofyourrut.com/blog/2009/12/14/face-the-future-informed-and-without-fear/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Face the Future Informed and Without Fear&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wojciech &#8211; Your comment and the fact that you have a baby on the way reminded me of me at about the time my son was born.  I was having a conversation with a work friend, who was also a Catholic Sunday school teacher, in which I was expressing concern about something important related to being a parent.  </p>
<p>In response to my comments, he asked me &#8220;do you pray?&#8221;  I wasn&#8217;t a praying person at the time and answered truthfully, &#8220;no&#8221;.  </p>
<p>&#8220;You will,&#8221; he answered, &#8220;you&#8217;re a father now&#8221;.  </p>
<p>That was over 15 years ago.  He was right.<br />
.-= Kevin@OutOfYourRut´s last blog ..<a href="http://outofyourrut.com/blog/2009/12/14/face-the-future-informed-and-without-fear/" rel="nofollow">Face the Future Informed and Without Fear</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/14/religion-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-793</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Joe - your comment, &quot;I can’t imagine giving allegiance to a master without letting him rule my money&quot; is right on. He would cease to be the Master at that point right?  

And of course that&#039;s the struggle of the Christian life as well - letting go of all our little idols we have so that Christ can have all of our hearts not just portions of them.
.-= Jason´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/RedeemingRiches/~3/zhNfNjBYw48/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why You’re Off Track for Your Retirement (And What to Do About It)&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Joe &#8211; your comment, &#8220;I can’t imagine giving allegiance to a master without letting him rule my money&#8221; is right on. He would cease to be the Master at that point right?  </p>
<p>And of course that&#8217;s the struggle of the Christian life as well &#8211; letting go of all our little idols we have so that Christ can have all of our hearts not just portions of them.<br />
.-= Jason´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/RedeemingRiches/~3/zhNfNjBYw48/" rel="nofollow">Why You’re Off Track for Your Retirement (And What to Do About It)</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/14/religion-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-792</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Fiscal Geek - you&#039;re right, it is a cool community of bloggers here with some great perspectives.  If you&#039;re feeling conflicted about bringing a more Christian message to your posts perhaps you should throw one in every now and then. =)  Or write a guest post on another blog.
.-= Jason´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/RedeemingRiches/~3/GEuujiWhtdI/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to Alter Your Finances by Becoming a Change Agent&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Fiscal Geek &#8211; you&#8217;re right, it is a cool community of bloggers here with some great perspectives.  If you&#8217;re feeling conflicted about bringing a more Christian message to your posts perhaps you should throw one in every now and then. =)  Or write a guest post on another blog.<br />
.-= Jason´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/RedeemingRiches/~3/GEuujiWhtdI/" rel="nofollow">How to Alter Your Finances by Becoming a Change Agent</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/14/religion-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-791</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Money Matters - You raise a good point in that surely non-Christians can be financially successful and have financial peace. Christians don&#039;t have a corner on that market.
.-= Jason´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/RedeemingRiches/~3/PMsaMHnwrkw/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What Makes People Happy?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Money Matters &#8211; You raise a good point in that surely non-Christians can be financially successful and have financial peace. Christians don&#8217;t have a corner on that market.<br />
.-= Jason´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/RedeemingRiches/~3/PMsaMHnwrkw/" rel="nofollow">What Makes People Happy?</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Insurance Paper</title>
		<link>http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/14/religion-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-770</link>
		<dc:creator>Insurance Paper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great topic you have here.  The comments give a wide view of the various leaders in the financial blogging world.  Keep up the great work Jason &amp; All

Ultimately, we will all be judged in various areas in our lives and I think how you handle your finances will definitely be one area.  Were we a slave to our money or did we use it to glorify HIM?  Debt is only wrong (IMO) if it restricts you from other areas of your life especially glorifying God.
.-= Insurance Paper´s last blog ..Prevent Frozen Pipe Break Insurance Claims =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great topic you have here.  The comments give a wide view of the various leaders in the financial blogging world.  Keep up the great work Jason &amp; All</p>
<p>Ultimately, we will all be judged in various areas in our lives and I think how you handle your finances will definitely be one area.  Were we a slave to our money or did we use it to glorify HIM?  Debt is only wrong (IMO) if it restricts you from other areas of your life especially glorifying God.<br />
.-= Insurance Paper´s last blog ..Prevent Frozen Pipe Break Insurance Claims =-.</p>
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		<title>By: K.S. Katz</title>
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		<dc:creator>K.S. Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religion isn&#039;t like a shirt that you wear when the occasion allows for it. It&#039;s with you everyday; through all your activities including making financial decisions. Like others have said, the Scripture brings a lot of wisdom on how to handle your money. I don&#039;t see how a devote person could separate the two.

Now do I believe that you have to walk with Jesus Christ to find true financial peace? No. I have too much respect for other religions to say there is only one religion or one way to manage your money. Achieving financial freedom doesn&#039;t require that you be religious. Does religion help and provide comfort during difficult times? Yes. But it&#039;s not a requirement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religion isn&#8217;t like a shirt that you wear when the occasion allows for it. It&#8217;s with you everyday; through all your activities including making financial decisions. Like others have said, the Scripture brings a lot of wisdom on how to handle your money. I don&#8217;t see how a devote person could separate the two.</p>
<p>Now do I believe that you have to walk with Jesus Christ to find true financial peace? No. I have too much respect for other religions to say there is only one religion or one way to manage your money. Achieving financial freedom doesn&#8217;t require that you be religious. Does religion help and provide comfort during difficult times? Yes. But it&#8217;s not a requirement.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Poulin</title>
		<link>http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/14/religion-and-money/comment-page-1/#comment-768</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Poulin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I run a religious prosperity blog. I am a very active Christian (Mormon). While I believe that God wants us to be happy and prosperous, I also think its just not in the plan for everyone to be financially successful. We should learn financial skills and apply them as best we can and then the financial peace comes from an understanding that God is taking care of us (our prosperity) once we&#039;ve done our part. 

I know plenty of very devout Christians whose finances are terrible - has nothing to do with their faith... but more often than not, faith in God brings a peace to life (including one&#039;s financial standing) that cannot be complete with that faith.

That&#039;s what I understand Dave&#039;s sign-off to mean.
.-= Eric Poulin´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://mormonbudget.com/2009/10/wealth-may-or-may-not-come-to-you-but-work-hard-anyway/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wealth May Or May Not Come To You, But Work Hard Anyway&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I run a religious prosperity blog. I am a very active Christian (Mormon). While I believe that God wants us to be happy and prosperous, I also think its just not in the plan for everyone to be financially successful. We should learn financial skills and apply them as best we can and then the financial peace comes from an understanding that God is taking care of us (our prosperity) once we&#8217;ve done our part. </p>
<p>I know plenty of very devout Christians whose finances are terrible &#8211; has nothing to do with their faith&#8230; but more often than not, faith in God brings a peace to life (including one&#8217;s financial standing) that cannot be complete with that faith.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I understand Dave&#8217;s sign-off to mean.<br />
.-= Eric Poulin´s last blog ..<a href="http://mormonbudget.com/2009/10/wealth-may-or-may-not-come-to-you-but-work-hard-anyway/" rel="nofollow">Wealth May Or May Not Come To You, But Work Hard Anyway</a> =-.</p>
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