Comments on: Should You Wait to Give Until You Have Enough Money? http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/26/giving-money/ Restore Your Money - Renew Your Mind Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:01:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Personal Finance Links- Start of a New Decade Edition http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/26/giving-money/comment-page-1/#comment-1012 Personal Finance Links- Start of a New Decade Edition Sun, 03 Jan 2010 23:16:00 +0000 http://www.redeemingriches.com/?p=2358#comment-1012 [...] Should You Wait to Give Until You Have Enough Money? at Redeeming Riches [...] [...] Should You Wait to Give Until You Have Enough Money? at Redeeming Riches [...]

]]> By: Jason http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/26/giving-money/comment-page-1/#comment-950 Jason Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:37:40 +0000 http://www.redeemingriches.com/?p=2358#comment-950 Credit Card Chaser - that is a great point to bring into the discussion about being faithful in little. In fact, I could argue that it's <em>even more important</em> to be faithful in little because the Bible says that "he who is faithful in very little <strong>is faithful</strong> in much. Great point! Credit Card Chaser – that is a great point to bring into the discussion about being faithful in little. In fact, I could argue that it’s even more important to be faithful in little because the Bible says that “he who is faithful in very little is faithful in much.

Great point!

]]> By: Jason http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/26/giving-money/comment-page-1/#comment-949 Jason Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:34:45 +0000 http://www.redeemingriches.com/?p=2358#comment-949 Craig - You are right, it doesn't make you a bad person if you practice personal savings and look after your own finances. What I'm suggesting is doing both - give and save. The Bible is full of paradoxes and giving is one of them. When we give more and have a looser grip on our money God supplies every need that we have. When we are willing to give it all up for His sake, He blesses that heart attitude. It seems strange that the more you give the more you have, but in many cases it's true. We shouldn't give so we can accumulate more, but what's funny is that God will give more because He sees us as a channel to have the resources flow through to others who are in need. Craig – You are right, it doesn’t make you a bad person if you practice personal savings and look after your own finances. What I’m suggesting is doing both – give and save.

The Bible is full of paradoxes and giving is one of them. When we give more and have a looser grip on our money God supplies every need that we have. When we are willing to give it all up for His sake, He blesses that heart attitude.

It seems strange that the more you give the more you have, but in many cases it’s true. We shouldn’t give so we can accumulate more, but what’s funny is that God will give more because He sees us as a channel to have the resources flow through to others who are in need.

]]> By: Jason http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/26/giving-money/comment-page-1/#comment-948 Jason Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:29:12 +0000 http://www.redeemingriches.com/?p=2358#comment-948 Dave, I can understand where you are coming from - I've been there with those same thoughts. A few points to think about is: #1) It's by God's sheer grace that we even have the health to go to work, have a job and make a living. #2) "The earth is the Lord's and everything in it" Psalm 24:1 - everything we have is really God's. We are simply stewards and managers of God's property. #3) "Blessed is the one who considers the poor, in the day of trouble the Lord delivers him" Psalm 41:1 - when we consider/care for/ think about/help the poor we are blessed. #4) Not every poor person is poor because of bad choices - some have been born into such horrible circumstances that it's near impossible for them to rise above them. That doesn't dismiss personal responsibility - I'm all for that, but we should be quick to extend mercy rather than judgment. #5) God cares for the poor, the weak and even His enemies - He sent His Son Jesus to come and die and take our place on that cross because He loves even sinners like me and you. All we have to do is accept the gift by believing in our hearts and confessing with our mouths that Jesus is Lord. Dave, I can understand where you are coming from – I’ve been there with those same thoughts. A few points to think about is:

#1) It’s by God’s sheer grace that we even have the health to go to work, have a job and make a living.

#2) “The earth is the Lord’s and everything in it” Psalm 24:1 – everything we have is really God’s. We are simply stewards and managers of God’s property.

#3) “Blessed is the one who considers the poor, in the day of trouble the Lord delivers him” Psalm 41:1 – when we consider/care for/ think about/help the poor we are blessed.

#4) Not every poor person is poor because of bad choices – some have been born into such horrible circumstances that it’s near impossible for them to rise above them. That doesn’t dismiss personal responsibility – I’m all for that, but we should be quick to extend mercy rather than judgment.

#5) God cares for the poor, the weak and even His enemies – He sent His Son Jesus to come and die and take our place on that cross because He loves even sinners like me and you. All we have to do is accept the gift by believing in our hearts and confessing with our mouths that Jesus is Lord.

]]> By: Credit Card Chaser http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/26/giving-money/comment-page-1/#comment-947 Credit Card Chaser Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:37:23 +0000 http://www.redeemingriches.com/?p=2358#comment-947 I agree with your analysis and also I would add that the Bible teaches it is important to be faithful and a good steward of little just as it is important to be faithful and a good steward of much. .-= Credit Card Chaser´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.creditcardchaser.com/your-credit-card-debt-is-your-fault-stop-reading-self-indulgent-blogs/" rel="nofollow">Your Credit Card Debt is Your Fault: Stop Reading Self Indulgent Blogs</a> =-. I agree with your analysis and also I would add that the Bible teaches it is important to be faithful and a good steward of little just as it is important to be faithful and a good steward of much.
.-= Credit Card Chaser´s last blog ..Your Credit Card Debt is Your Fault: Stop Reading Self Indulgent Blogs =-.

]]> By: Craig http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/26/giving-money/comment-page-1/#comment-944 Craig Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:28:35 +0000 http://www.redeemingriches.com/?p=2358#comment-944 I think you should. It also depends on what's your appropriate level of giving? It doesn't make you a bad person if you practice personal savings and look after your own finances. It's tough to always look to give when you have your own needs and potential emergencies that could come up. If you can give, amazing. But if you can't or don't feel comfortable, I don't think you should be looked down on. .-= Craig´s last blog ..<a href="http://blog.budgetpulse.com/2009/12/23/weekly-personal-finance-twitter-chat-2/" rel="nofollow">Weekly Personal Finance Twitter Chat</a> =-. I think you should. It also depends on what’s your appropriate level of giving? It doesn’t make you a bad person if you practice personal savings and look after your own finances. It’s tough to always look to give when you have your own needs and potential emergencies that could come up. If you can give, amazing. But if you can’t or don’t feel comfortable, I don’t think you should be looked down on.
.-= Craig´s last blog ..Weekly Personal Finance Twitter Chat =-.

]]> By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/26/giving-money/comment-page-1/#comment-943 Kevin@OutOfYourRut Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:59:10 +0000 http://www.redeemingriches.com/?p=2358#comment-943 "Usually this question can be turned into an objection for giving"--I never thought of it this way, but that's very insightful, and I think you're right about this. A lot does depend on your financial condition though. If you're barely getting by, feeding your family and deep in debt, it's important to give at least a little something, but trying to stay with a 10% tithe can create pressure so great that you're no longer giving cheerfully. We have the strong example of the poor women giving the widows mite here-God will bless what little we give when we have little. Flip side, people who are enjoying good times, financially speaking, probably need to look to something beyond 10%. But I'm being more than a bit judgemental here too! .-= Kevin@OutOfYourRut´s last blog ..<a href="http://outofyourrut.com/blog/2009/12/27/one-good-reason-not-to-cancel-your-collision-coverage/" rel="nofollow">One Good Reason NOT to Cancel Your Collision Coverage</a> =-. “Usually this question can be turned into an objection for giving”–I never thought of it this way, but that’s very insightful, and I think you’re right about this.

A lot does depend on your financial condition though. If you’re barely getting by, feeding your family and deep in debt, it’s important to give at least a little something, but trying to stay with a 10% tithe can create pressure so great that you’re no longer giving cheerfully. We have the strong example of the poor women giving the widows mite here-God will bless what little we give when we have little.

Flip side, people who are enjoying good times, financially speaking, probably need to look to something beyond 10%. But I’m being more than a bit judgemental here too!
.-= Kevin@OutOfYourRut´s last blog ..One Good Reason NOT to Cancel Your Collision Coverage =-.

]]> By: Ken http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/26/giving-money/comment-page-1/#comment-942 Ken Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:10:47 +0000 http://www.redeemingriches.com/?p=2358#comment-942 I do believe we should give while we are in debt. You are so right when you say we up our standard of living and all the while blame debt for not being able to give. We add 'wants' and God said he would supply needs. .-= Ken´s last blog ..What Retirement “Type” Do You Prefer? =-. I do believe we should give while we are in debt. You are so right when you say we up our standard of living and all the while blame debt for not being able to give. We add ‘wants’ and God said he would supply needs.
.-= Ken´s last blog ..What Retirement “Type” Do You Prefer? =-.

]]> By: Dave http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/26/giving-money/comment-page-1/#comment-936 Dave Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:46:31 +0000 http://www.redeemingriches.com/?p=2358#comment-936 I work hard for my money. I work hard for my money, so that my family and I can have a great life, filled with all the joys and riches that we deserve. I work hard for my money, so that my wife does not have to, and she can raise our beautiful family. I work hard for my money so that we can live debt-free, never concerned about how we are going to afford the next bill or when the next paycheck will come in. Why in the world would I want to give ANY of my HARD EARNED money away?! It makes no sense to me why anyone would work as hard as they do, only to donate their hard-earned income to the "needy" or to "charity". The ONLY charity I am concerned about is ME and MY FAMILY! Everyone is born equal. We all have an equal chance to get an education, to get ahead in life, to be successful and to live a financially-rewarding life. It's not my fault that a "needy" person made the CHOICE to not excel in life, is it? Why should ANYONE expect me to share ANY of my hard-earned income? As for tipping, I NEVER tip either, under any circumstances. Why should I be expected to tip? Do I get a tip for doing my JOB? Heck no! The ONLY tip I'll give someone is to go back to school, get an education and the SKILLS necessary so that you don't have to accept doing low-paying, low-life, menial labor as your CAREER. Of course, having an education does not always guarantee financial success in life, but not having one almost always guarantees failure. Remember...we are all created equal, but we are not ALL EQUAL. Life is about choices. Make the right ones. I work hard for my money. I work hard for my money, so that my family and I can have a great life, filled with all the joys and riches that we deserve. I work hard for my money, so that my wife does not have to, and she can raise our beautiful family. I work hard for my money so that we can live debt-free, never concerned about how we are going to afford the next bill or when the next paycheck will come in.

Why in the world would I want to give ANY of my HARD EARNED money away?! It makes no sense to me why anyone would work as hard as they do, only to donate their hard-earned income to the “needy” or to “charity”. The ONLY charity I am concerned about is ME and MY FAMILY!

Everyone is born equal. We all have an equal chance to get an education, to get ahead in life, to be successful and to live a financially-rewarding life. It’s not my fault that a “needy” person made the CHOICE to not excel in life, is it? Why should ANYONE expect me to share ANY of my hard-earned income?

As for tipping, I NEVER tip either, under any circumstances. Why should I be expected to tip? Do I get a tip for doing my JOB? Heck no! The ONLY tip I’ll give someone is to go back to school, get an education and the SKILLS necessary so that you don’t have to accept doing low-paying, low-life, menial labor as your CAREER. Of course, having an education does not always guarantee financial success in life, but not having one almost always guarantees failure.

Remember…we are all created equal, but we are not ALL EQUAL. Life is about choices. Make the right ones.

]]> By: Jason http://www.redeemingriches.com/2009/12/26/giving-money/comment-page-1/#comment-935 Jason Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:25:49 +0000 http://www.redeemingriches.com/?p=2358#comment-935 Christopher, thanks for the comment and perspective. It's good to remember that we don't give because we expect something in return - we give because we love Him! .-= Jason´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/RedeemingRiches/~3/PMsaMHnwrkw/" rel="nofollow">What Makes People Happy?</a> =-. Christopher, thanks for the comment and perspective. It’s good to remember that we don’t give because we expect something in return – we give because we love Him!
.-= Jason´s last blog ..What Makes People Happy? =-.

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